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Oct 21, 2008 16:18:21 GMT -5
Post by LegolasLover on Oct 21, 2008 16:18:21 GMT -5
Oh, good. My parents need to be scared more often, by people other than me (and MCR.... grr...).
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Oct 22, 2008 17:54:31 GMT -5
Post by hobbitgirl on Oct 22, 2008 17:54:31 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever showed my mom the pictures either, but just because she doesn't like it. She's not scared, she'd just give me a strange look and keep going. lol
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Oct 22, 2008 20:04:54 GMT -5
Post by LegolasLover on Oct 22, 2008 20:04:54 GMT -5
Huh...my parents lecture me on how 'disturbing' they find it that I'm 'attracted' to that type of stuff. Like one night, my mom came back and saw me watching the music video to Helena, and she saw the part where the girl gets out of the coffin and starts dancing down the aisle (I WANT HER DRESS AND SLIPPERS.), and she just had this look of revulsion on her face. Then she started drilling me as to why I find that attractive, and started going off on the dead girl dancing, Gee's expressions of 'anger and anguish' (It's a sad song. You want him to be smiling? (And anyway, he's really, really hot in that vid. I tried to tell her that, but she didn't believe me... -.-), and why I save the pix of the 'blood-spattered images' (yeah, but still...). And then all the crap about 'why do you think that's attractive' and 'what about their music inspires you when all they talk about is death' and 'do they every sound happy'? It sucks how misunderstood that band is... I'm pretty much the only person I know who isn't in some way frightened by them. Honestly, are they really that bad? (Of course not in actuality, but do they really appear that bad to other people who don't know them?)
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Oct 27, 2008 17:39:20 GMT -5
Post by hobbitgirl on Oct 27, 2008 17:39:20 GMT -5
Umm. Yeah. I'll try not to say too much, as I can be pretty opinionated about this topic since I do like melancholic/emo stuff. But I think that my personality balances it out well. Haha, I'm technically phlegmatic, but outwardly I think I appear more content and happy than I usually feel. Although I have been asked quite a lot recently if I'm "not feeling well". I think I tend to spend too much time "in my head" rather than in the actual social setting I'm in. Since music reflects my mood rather than affects it ... well. Yeah. I can listen to angry/sad music without me wanting go shoot someone or break down crying. It basically soothes me and assures me I don't have to feel this way, others feel this way, and that everything will be okay. However, if I turn on the angry/sad music when I'm happy, it drives me UP THE WALL. So. Yeah. I'm not talking All I can say is that life is full of death, anger, anguish, etc., and listening to light, fluffy, happy music can't change it, although it can be a stress-reliever for some people. Hey, I'd love to talk about this all day. I've been able to explain to my parents (well, my mom more than my dad) my preferences and assure them that I'm not about to be demonic in any way, shape, or form (I mean, just look at half of my wardrobe ;D). Basically, I show them respect and responsibility (well ... not all the time ), and they respect my preferences and trust my choices. They have set boundaries for me and I understand them and respect them. It is their house. They have that right. It has definitely taught me how to "grow up".
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Oct 31, 2008 16:04:41 GMT -5
Post by LegolasLover on Oct 31, 2008 16:04:41 GMT -5
I adore depressing/emo music (MCR themselves aren't emo, though they're often labeled like that (mainly because they tend to tour with those bands and many of their fans are emo)). And I think I can be much the same way with the whole 'spead more time in your head' thing. I know I am depressed (I guess I could be considered a little emo, but I'm not cutting myself or anything (not saying all emos do, of course)), but I also just enjoy spending time alone--even if it's only alone in my head. Wow, I'm very different than you when it comes to happy moods/depressing music. I'm almost to the point where the only music I really enjoy is angry/sad. Not to say that I can't stand to listen to happy music at all, but there seem to be very few happy songs that I like. Even if I am happy, I very rarely listen to happy music. I'm almost exclusively metal/punk/emo when it comes to music choices. MCR's very close to the only thing I listen to lately (hey, I'm obsessed; you already knew that. What can I say? lol), aside from Evanescence, and occasionally Linkin Park (I sadly still haven't gotten ahold of any cds) or the All-American Rejects (sometimes they can be a little too happy for me, but I like them overall). And I'm very interested in The Used (did some collaborations with MCR, and seem popular (with the Goths, anyway, who I'm pretty much grouped with)), The Misfits (seem popular , and Gee recommended them), and a bunch of other metal bands, including Korn, A7X, and Apocalyptica (they're on some late show tonight I think; I'm gonna try to watch). Sad/angry music really is that stress-reliever for me. I've had a crappy day, I listen to MCR, and they really make me feel better, like I'm not alone, like I'm strong, like everything'll eventually be okay. I think part of my general dislike of happy music is that it seems very out-of-touch, with me, at least. I understand there are positive things in life, but to me there doesn't seem a whole lot of point in telling someone else about it, because if you're already happy, you don't need anyone to tell you to be (not to say that it's no different for others; I'm sure it is). Sad/angry music seems to have more of a purpose; it gives me that boost; it relates to me a lot more. Esp. since life is full of that type of stuff; it seems a lot more relevant, I think. I could talk about this all day, too. Hey, I pretty much already have. ( ^^sorry about that) My parents still aren't convinced, at least not totally, that I'm 'okay'. They're pretty sure I'm not suicidal (although that recent call from the school office warning them that I might be, and have admitted to suicidal thoughts (not recently), and asking about some counseling program for emo kids or whatever--didn't help ), and they know I'm not homicidal (though I'm often kind of angry). They're still fervently against the whole Goth/emo mentality, with anything from music to clothing to makeup (all three of which I constantly have to fight them on ); they think it's completely evil. I don't try to rebel, and I understand there have to be guidelines, but at the same time I want to be allowed to be myself and not have people trying to control that.
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Nov 2, 2008 21:40:15 GMT -5
Post by hobbitgirl on Nov 2, 2008 21:40:15 GMT -5
Aw, I wish I could be there to give you a hug. I feel the same way so much. Of course, maybe I'm a little bit different in the aspect that I'll listen to whatever's playing, wear bright clothing, and I could care less about makeup. Personal preferences, mainly.
I am a little curious about the depression. What exactly has you depressed? How would you describe it?
Y'know, y'ever wanna talk, y'know my number.
Things'll get better. They always do.
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Nov 3, 2008 16:37:51 GMT -5
Post by LegolasLover on Nov 3, 2008 16:37:51 GMT -5
lol. Yeah, it's not that I can't listen to light-hearted stuff at all, I just highly prefer dark/depressing/angry stuff. Clothing: I wear almost exclusively black (or red, always with something black). There's never a day that goes by where I don't wear something black (except that one outfit; it's not black, but it has skulls. Good for me, huh? lol), except if I don't have to be presentable at all because I'm not going anywhere. The makeup isn't like most people wear it; just black or occasionally red eyeshadow, and once in a while dark red lipgloss.
As far as the depression: I'm not really sure what's causing it. I think it's just kind of a combination of stuff. Stress from school, I fight with my parents a lot, and just the whole teenage deal. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's just some phase or something. I don't sit alone and cry all the time or anything, I just usually don't appear very happy, though I'm not necessarily sad all the time (not that I'm exactly happy either, but...), I just zone, and I'm very apathetical when it comes to most everything. And I'm pretty antisocial, I'm not gonna lie. I've taken to spending much more time alone, and I've occasionally passed up the opportunity to do stuff with friends, and there are very few places I enjoy going to. I'm not really sure...there's some other stuff too, but I don't know if you can get anything from that, if you're kinda trying to analyze it or something... And thank you for the offer to talk. I appreciate that very much, and I'll definitely be sure to call you if I ever need someone to talk to.
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Nov 4, 2008 14:57:11 GMT -5
Post by hobbitgirl on Nov 4, 2008 14:57:11 GMT -5
lol, I'm too lazy to bother with makeup mostly ;D I have to admit, I do like the black eyeshadow/dark lipgloss look for most people. That's another dumb thing...my lips are too full for any sort of lipgloss/stick, etc. Good grief... Hmm. Not trying to analyze...not my job Just was curious, since you had said you were depressed before and wondered. I don't always appear happy myself and I have pretty much taken the same attitude toward life: Hey, that's the way it is, get over it. I still do have a hard time sympathizing with others. If someone tells me a grandparent died or something, I'm like, "Aw, not fun " but it makes me feel bad because I know some others who are really good at making others feel better. Oh well. So yeah... I just wanted to let you know that if there ever is anything, I can and will talk without trying to psychoanalyze and turn your life around Gotta love when people try to do that
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Nov 4, 2008 15:51:58 GMT -5
Post by LegolasLover on Nov 4, 2008 15:51:58 GMT -5
Oh, no, I'm not trying to imply anything like that. Sorry if that came out wrong. I was just saying. With the makeup: I always have to fight my parents on that. They don't really mind it on top, just when I have it underneath--if it's black, I look beat-up (or, as my little sister said to me the other night: "It's like watching a raccoon!"), and if it's red, I look hung-over. Personally, I think it looks fine, and I don't really give a crap what other people think of it as long as I like it. (If I let that bother me, I'd dress way differently.) I'm a terrible sympathizer too. Like you said, I'm really just like, "Yeah, whatever" about most everything. Not that I don't care about what other people are going through, it's just...I dunno. I'm just bad at it, I guess.
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Nov 6, 2008 8:32:03 GMT -5
Post by hobbitgirl on Nov 6, 2008 8:32:03 GMT -5
I knew that, I just was letting you know. Um, I'm going to say it now: Do take the time to make the makeup look decent. Let someone teach you how to put it on tastefully. It can still look the way you want it to (goth...or whatever) but still look cool. Trust me. Taking the time to learn will make the makeup look more effective. Most of the time, less is more. Or at least, so says the girls I know who wear makeup (and the guys who like the look of makeup). You don't have to look like a raccoon/hung-over Yet you can still get the look you want. The way I describe it is I'm an emotional person with a hard heart And for the record, I am 54% melancholic and 46% phlegmatic ;D
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Nov 6, 2008 22:31:05 GMT -5
Post by LegolasLover on Nov 6, 2008 22:31:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I know. I'm not great at applying makeup by any means, but I can get it on well enough that it looks fine. To me, at least. Personally, I like the red/black makeup under the eyes. I don't care if other people think I look beat-up/raccoonish/hung-over. I think it looks cool. So other people can just shut the heck up as far as I'm concerned. I'm not asking anyone else to wear it, or like it. People can tell me how good/bad I look, and I honestly won't really give a crap. (Not to sound angry or b**chy (<<sorry; couldn't think of any other word; got one I can change that to?) or anything, just stating my opinions as they are. ) I think that's kinda how I am. I have a lot of feelings, I just don't tend to show them. I'm told I'm very 'poker-faced'.
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Nov 7, 2008 7:54:21 GMT -5
Post by hobbitgirl on Nov 7, 2008 7:54:21 GMT -5
I understand completely. But I still believe that it doesn't have to look that way yet still cool. Because I know I've seen it SOMEWHERE. As far as changing the word...uh, crabby? Mm, not quite the word I'm looking for. Oh well. It's fine for now. It's better you think that way. Better than the polar opposite.
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Nov 7, 2008 20:05:09 GMT -5
Post by LegolasLover on Nov 7, 2008 20:05:09 GMT -5
I know I don't have to make it look like that for it to look cool (btw, those are all other people's descriptions (namely, my parents ), not mine. Just to clear that up. ). I'm not really going for any particular look, just whatever I like. And anyway, at school, I'm told I'm really cute with the black eyes. Red, I've gotten mixed comments (Elizabeth's not thrilled about either one; but she's always been sort of against the whole Goth look, esp. on me (I think she likes the more innocent/happy look). Gee's eye makeup can drive her nuts sometimes. lol). But I guess my point is, just because my parents hate it doesn't mean it looks bad, and that's coming from people other than me. And--and this'll probably sound really stupid/shallow--it's really the first I can remember really feeling like I look okay, like I don't look like total crap. I'm still not attractive or anything (no plastic surgery here ), but I definitely feel better about the way I look. (Don't get the impression that I have a bunch of self-esteem issues or that that's the only reason I wear stuff; I don't let people walk all over me, but at the same time I face the facts.)
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Nov 8, 2008 10:02:58 GMT -5
Post by hobbitgirl on Nov 8, 2008 10:02:58 GMT -5
Ah, I see. I thought other people were saying that other than your parents Hey, it probably looks decent. Speaking of which, I've been really tempted lately to start wearing dark nail polish. I really, really like the look. I don't know if my parents will let me yet though.
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Nov 9, 2008 15:29:04 GMT -5
Post by LegolasLover on Nov 9, 2008 15:29:04 GMT -5
My parents don't like me wearing black nail polish, but they let me. Except to church, but I've gotten away with it a couple times. I just paint it over with a thin coat of red, so it's a really dark red. I always prefer the black, though. It goes with a lot more things. Plus it looks really cool, esp. 'cause my nails are so long. (Elizabeth was amazed the first time she saw them black. They terrify her little sisters (combination of color and length lol), but oh well. Don't care. ) But if you ever wanna just check out what they'd look like painted black, you can always use mine (I've heard talk of maybe going to visit you guys for Thanksgiving.).
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